Some people might call these vows "traditional" others may call it "respectful" but I'm really dissapointed that this is whats coming out of some peoples mouths in the 20th century saying in their wedding vows and what this site condones and believes is right. Women should be respectful but as should men, women should work hard and support their family and as should men. These ways of thinking above are outdated and objectify women into cleaning objects almost. I dont understand why women are still looked at only as a mop and a dust pan and broom or if their lucky a mother of kids. Not only do women have every right to have these roles shared but I strongly believe men get away with murder and are seen as these masculine figures in society when in reality, most of them are as seen in the vows above, massoginistic empty, pathetic, delusional outdated air heads.
Francessca2024-08-05
the vows
Some people might call these vows "traditional" others may call it "respectful" but I'm really dissapointed that this is whats coming out of some peoples mouths in the 20th century saying in their wedding vows and what this site condones and believes is right. Women should be respectful but as should men, women should work hard and support their family and as should men. These ways of thinking above are outdated and objectify women into cleaning objects almost. I dont understand why women are still looked at only as a mop and a dust pan and broom or if their lucky a mother of kids. Not only do women have every right to have these roles shared but I strongly believe men get away with murder and are seen as these masculine figures in society when in reality, most of them are as seen in the vows above, massoginistic empty, pathetic, delusional outdated air heads.
Francessca2024-08-05
Wive is serve
A wife if to be obedient and serve her husband. She is the property of her husband. Allah knows best.
Ali2019-11-23
Mr
This is incomplete vows. Tge amount of the gift should be mentioned. Sometimes it is fully paid, sometimes divided into prepaid and postpaid.
Mohannad2019-09-20
Lom
Wow
Shane Beckford2017-04-06
REAL ISLAM :) but your just going to ignore and twist
when a couple have decided beforehand that they like each other and are happy with what eac person brings into their life in ISLAM they get engaged, then they are able to get to know each other on a deeper level even then the man or woman may leave. you talk about equality it is said that if a woman does not even like the shape of the mans beard or his voice, personality she can leave him. when they get married on the day the they sit with a imam(pastor) parents and family from both sides. a verse is read loudly in the quran if it is done in the mosque then random members also are witnesses of the marriage. the verse is read everyone raises there hands and prays after the pastor and says ameen then the woman is asked many times and the man many times. then they both sign and asked again privately so that they do not feel pressured. this ususally happens in the morning so it is more private and the big event where everyones family comes and eats and dances is later on.
shifa2016-11-12
Nanny
I care for the children of a beautiful Pakistani family and am enjoying learning more of their culture and faith. My fiancée and I are searching for the perfect vows to reflect how the Holy Ones fit into our relationship. Perfectly beautiful.
Jody2016-09-14
wedding vows
The name of allaha the merciful and beneficial should be added at first of the vow.
khurshid rahman2014-08-05
muslkim
love this vows, mean the world to me always obedient to my man
saynotooQ2014-03-03
wow
that is the shortest sweetest vow ive ever read. it says everything in so few words. my eyes watered and my heart melted.
Ameera2013-10-05
just my opinion
you should put more to the grooms vows to spice it up a bit but i love the words obedient should respect nd you should put something like i would hold you in your care or i will cater to you in all your might
daishane2012-10-19
NOT islam
Hello guys, just wanted to say that wedding vows do exist in Islam, and this is NOT it. All of it is not correct. Whoever created this vow wanted to show some hate towards Islam through the media by showing that Muslim woman are OBEDIENT to their husbands, which is a load of crap. Anyways try as much as you may to make the image appear poor towards, Islam is Islam and will always be.
sammy2012-07-19
Wow....
Where is God,the keeper of all marriages?
Rochelle Gaes2012-06-26
I am with Bob
You all need to find out more about a Muslim wedding and the vows. This ain't it...
Muslimah2012-05-29
Then what is wrong
If this is wrong then what is normally said?
Llama2012-04-18
just saying...
how can muslim men be faithful when they can marry four more wives... such hypocrisy.
koolalalooo2012-04-17
Not quite
My husband and I have been married for 2years now and I do not I repeat do not back up these vows. There is no such way so I suggest the person responsible for the post get the correct and proper information. I mean obedient really? Its a given to be faithful and true to your spouse but that word has no place in how a ceremony is performed or "vows" exchanged. Get it together please and thank you.
Ashadia Abdul2012-04-16
....
There is no wedding vows in Islam, but in Islam, we have the obligation that has to be fulfilled by both parties. the vow that all of you arguing is only a matter of guidance on how the marriage would be. The wife is bound to serve her husband so long it does not against Islam, and the husband is bound to provide for the wife. We Muslims have no problem reading this 'wedding vow' because we know the intention behind it. If the non-muslims do not like it, do not leave any mean comment. Please respect other religion and beliefs.
my opinion2012-03-01
My thoughts
The word "Obedent" is a bad represenation of muslim vows. Helpful or respectful would be better suited.
Anon2012-02-19
se moer
wat ek se net niks soes dit ni ek moet my kop laat lees dai tyd ja ...ma shukran vi die vows
shaheedah2012-01-13
Muslim wedding do not have vows
Muslim wedding don't have wedding vow. the obligation of husband and wife is all written in Al Quran, the bride and the groom doesn't need to vow because to be with their husband/wife in sickness and health, happiness and sorrow, etc are their obligation as a muslim. it's absolute.
instead there are ijab-kabul, in ceremonial the father of the bride give his daughter to the groom, and the groom accept it. of course the father must ask his daughter if she really love him and want the men to be her husband.
i hope u understand what i mean. i'm not fluent in english though
Amanda2012-01-07
vow
Pls can this vow be made while slippering the ring?pls I'd really appreciate it if you can reply
kofo2011-11-22
Reality Check
I am a Muslim woman, and let me inform you guys :
1. We do not actually have wedding vows. So whatever is written up there is pointless.
2. Women are not being oppressed. I am one, and I know better. What gives you guys the right to judge from the outside?
Wake up to reality....
Juv2011-08-14
Correction
I would like to correct my earlier comment about equality between men and women. Here is a response when a Muslim scholar was asked about the issue:
"This word – equality – which many thinkers in both the east and the west advocate in various fields of life is a word which is based on deviation and a lack of understanding, especially when the speaker attributes this idea of equality to the Qur’aan and to Islam."
The scholar goes on to say:
"But if we say justice, which means giving each one that to which he or she is entitled, this misunderstanding no longer applies, and the word used is correct. Hence it does not say in the Qur’aan that Allaah enjoins equality, rather it says (interpretation of the meaning):
Bottom line is that study Islam as a whole not just one aspect because you will never get the full picture that way for anything.
Someone2011-08-04
Some Thoughts
I totally agree with Connie. Christianity and Islam share very similar moral beliefs, however, sadly people have changed many aspects of Christianity because they just don't like it. One cannot just tailor his/her faith to fit their own desires. It no longer remains faith. One of the reasons why Muslims keep to their faith so strongly is because the word "Muslim" means to completely submit to God. It is a core belief. That is why Muslims do not change their morality because that is given only by God. Humans cannot interfere in what God wants them to do.
Also, men and women in Islam are equal in front of God, however, they have different roles to play in this life. Very similar to what Connie said about how it is in purer Christianity. In marriage, the man is the head of the household but that does not give him the right to treat his wife and family in any dishonorable way. They all work together. Also, there are no formal wedding vows. People in earlier posts have already gone over how a wedding in Islam takes place.
This, along with the fundamentals of Islam are a very deep and thought provoking subjects. The Qur'an often says that this way of life and religion is for those who think and use their intellect. Those who say negative things about Islam should deeply study it and ask Muslims if any questions or ambiguities they may have. Study it from the source which are the Qur'an and the life and traditions of the Prophet. Study it in non-biased way. A neutral way. Many women think that Islam keeps women in an inferior status. However, when they study it and learn about it, they embrace it. It is because it is not just a religion it is a complete way of life. If one only takes parts of it then it will seem very strange, indeed. That is with everything in life. One should look at Islam as a whole and that can only happen if they learn about it from its very core principles.
Someone2011-08-04
The truth bringer
That is why the world is so messed up today. As a catholic I am sometimes so sad. Our women get married looking like hookers, live with the guys before marriage, have kids with the guys before marriage and dont care how they enter the church, this is the majority of most christian religon where no woman covers their head and its in any christian bible for us to do so. Head covering is not a muslim thing. But guess what we didn't like that so we changed it. Then the original christian wedding vows were to love honor and obey, but guess what we didn't like that so we changed that, and in the catholic faith a woman would of never been seen going to mass with out a head covering, but we didn't like that so we changed that. Christianity is very similar to muslim, its just that muslims are more true to their faith and hold the ancient traditions and cultures that we loose. What is so sexist about a woman loving a man and trusting him to guide you, protect, you and do what's best for you? What is so wrong with belonging to someone who loves you, would die for you and is spending the rest of their lives for you. I love my catholic fate but I am greatly saddened by the lost of virtue, respect, and honor that we so-called modern catholics have interjected into the faith. To all of you that are Muslims just know that most of the negative comments are from real christians either and as a real christian catholic I SAY SORRY for what they have written
Connie2011-07-14
WHATS THE BIG DEAL
Whats up with all the sexist talk? Any religon that is traditional will always say for a woman to be an obidient bride. The original christian vows are to love honor and obey, for the wife. Once again instead of following their religon and having trust and faith that God knows what he is doing when he commands us, we changed them. The men are trusted to be faithful, loving, and sincere to us for all time. And the woman to be supportive and respectful to her husband. It creates a healthy balance to marriage, what is the big deal?? I am woman and I don't feel degraded and I want my man to be the head of the household, I want him to be my protector, the one who cares for me, the one who provides, and the one who drives and pushes the family. Funny, how women say they don't want them or cry sexist but every woman dreams of a rich man to take care of them. Without gender roles you can be sure to continue to wacth the divorce rate sky rocket as people dont know what to do, or how to act. I have a great husband and yes I respect him as head of the house hold. And respects me as his wife and my place in the family. I am catholic.
connie2011-07-14
just mine
you guys all really doesn't know the essential of that vow_
baldybuddy2011-04-08
Knowledge
You guys apparently know little to nothing about the Muslim faith.
Bob Johnson2011-04-04
what I feel
This vows express the role of the couple perfectly!
Sarah2011-02-28
come on
No offenses to you Muslim.We were just sharing our opinions what we think. At least it might not be the exact words as your vows but I'm sure its close come on. I respect how you muslims feel. But at least our christians vows we say the same thing to one another.
miranda2011-02-11
To my Muslim Brothers and Sisters
My brothers and sisters,
As-salamu alaykum Wahramatullah Wabarakatuh.
Just let them say whatever they want about our religion. Allah will always be there to punish them in the grave and in the hereafter's life. We are all lucky that we are muslims- we know the truth. Just respect their opinion about it, let them talk, even if they don't know what they are talking about and we will see who will ask for so much mercy on the Final Judgement.
People who talk about something they don't know are more prone to danger.
Aisha2011-02-09
converting to Muslim
I some what agree, but those are just words and its in the heart of the couples that will deter,mine their type of relationship.
Mr. converting2010-12-26
vow
i think that the vow is a bit boring no offence but to improve it you could make it a bit more interesting and romantic
mariya2010-12-16
Umm Hello People
Just wanted to reiterate what Rachel said. Click on the link for "Christian Wedding Vows". Its all about the woman being obedient and the man being head of the relationship. Conservative Christians should find the words of the Muslim wedding familiar. Idiots who bash Islam just because it's Islam are narrow-minded hypocrites. And if you truly do hate these vows, you should hate the Christian vows just as much.
Mak2010-12-03
resepect
Ya'll should resepect yourselves, we dont insult your traditions and religion, so you do the same... You got your religion and I got mine so mind your business please and thank you.
Edd2010-11-22
Garbage
Wow Muslims are full of shit. Ive read the Quran and the things that the brides have to say at there weddings are rediculus and embarassing. I dont know how or why a Muslim bride is ok with saying such things at her own wedding.
Jon2010-11-03
My opinion
My soon to be husband is Muslim and neither of us agree with the word "OBEDIENT". Times have changes and things are not that way anymore.
Jenny2010-11-01
my op
It's actually beautiful how that girl pleased to marry the groom:') i wanna be a muslim!
Lakesha2010-10-16
its good
the comments here are just a result of stupid brainwashed and ignorant Americans (and i am native American, but not one of the aforementioned). it's just a result of endless propaganda, and it makes me sick to see what a bunch of morons i am surrounded by in the USA. pea-brain tunnel-vision morons. i apologize on behalf of all of them. they think they are the center of the universe, and the world revolves around their ignorance, and have no ability to think for themselves. they think they are superior by nit-picking, while complaining about stereotypes amidst stereotyping themselves. HYPOCRITES. the words are beautiful, unless you are a femi-nazi.
chad2010-10-11
Sigh
All of the christian wedding vows are saying the same thing, its just long and drawn out. But in all of them they said "Submit to you" and "Obedient and faithful wife" (same line) and there is even more focus on the aspect of male leadership and female submissiveness... and I still don't get what is wrong with listening to your husband and allowing him to lead the house. Women are so obsessed with competing for the "best" position or with becoming entirely equal to men. If women and men were meant to be completely equal they'd have been created equal... were not equal and that is because we are the halves of each other. Man does not equal woman but man and woman = one whole. Stop picking on Islam.
Rachel2010-09-14
so....
so... i'm not muslim, but a man is a man and a woman is a woman. thats how god made us. thats just how things are and its not sterotyped. the sooner people accept that the happier they'll be. :)
nick2010-08-14
its only a vow
jeezz....its only a vow... a promise we make to each other when we get married. y all the fuss??... don't like the word obedient.. fine... change it as long its appropriate. don't like the vow at all, don't use it... don't comment on it...just go away..don't have to be rude and post all this crap up.... from what I've researched, theres other EXAMPLES of vow can be used..not only this one... and please be respectful of other religion...
Anonymous2010-08-02
why
Why are people upset about these vows. Christains vows are just about the same "love and obey till death do us apart" only thing differant is most christains are lying, divorce rates prove that.
Tracy2010-05-18
Think for a second
This vow is not a traditional vow of a Muslim wedding and its just what someone has stated as their opinion of it. The Equality in love and respect between a man and woman is very important in Islam.
Common Sense2010-05-10
some respect
eros...and the rest of u, u know nothing about Islam. There are no such vows in Islam, this is made up by some chancer. Guys dont be so intolerant especially if you know nothing about another religion, rather ask a proper muslim!
jenny2010-02-21
Ownership
This is a vow of ownership where the woman has subjugated herself to the man as required in a man's point of view. Any person who is a convert must be asking themselves why would I agree to this.
Eros2010-02-20
This Is Not Appreciated
First things first... Allah is God not the prophet Mohammad. From what I have read in here this all makes me very sad that there are so many people who are uneducated on what the Muslim faith consists of... Many people have said that this religion is the first to provide women with rights... so here are a few examples... Back in the day when this religion began, women everywhere, not just the future Muslims, were set in the role of the homemaker not able to go out or work because in those times men could literally "do" whatever they wanted. By covering up the women this freed them to be able to go outside of the home and not be objectified. The cultures where the women walk behind the men, well that is for their protection as well. Islam is the first to provide women with rights actually allowing them a divorce. And if anyone brings up the violence that has been in the news, first do your research and know that those people are not really Muslims in the same way the KKK are not really Christians, Just so you know Jesus was a Jew from the Middle East(an Arab). I know this isn't going to change the mind of any of you who are so set in your ways of hating, just try remember that Jesus brought a message of acceptance and tolerance, not of violence and hatred, so even if you don't feel what they are doing is right remember what Christianity is about.
Miss2010-02-13
stupid
PLEASE LEARN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RELIGION AND CULTURE!! DONT BE SO DAMN IGNORANT! THESE ARE CULTURAL VOWS THAT SOMEONES GRANNY MADE UP, ITS GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM
nas2010-01-22
vows
Jeez u people are bloody ignorant. Islam has no wedding vows like this. plz do ur research properly. and before u ignorant people diss Islam and it's women... clean up your own back yards bcoz the highest rate of divorce, infidelity and abuse is found in the british and american societies. islam respects women, that is why so many of your women are converting to Islam.
miss.r.s.a2010-01-22
Typical
allah must have hated women when he was alive, the man does as he wants and the woman is just a baby churning machine with no rights
Lesley2010-01-21
My opinion
How comes the woman has to read a longer piece than the man. Thats not fair is it?
Siera2010-01-14
no wedding vows in islam
there are no wedding vows in islam, the imam just makes a speech, they ask the bride three times, if she wants to get married, and the groom once, when they both say yes, they get married.
moe2010-01-07
waste of a life
Religion what a waste of a life! Dedicating your whole life to something that isn't even real. It only seems real because you have been taught it all your life and you don't know any better. It feels good to have an open mind and to be objective and rational and not to live a life of falsehood.
Bill2010-01-06
No surpirses here
it's very evident that the muslim faith holds little respect for women.as a male of no faith I find this disgusting and denigrating this is something emanating from the stone age
Bill2010-01-06
correction
There is no such thing as "vows" in a traditional muslim wedding. The bride and groom are asked if they will take each other, then everyone present recites the fatiha, a surate of the curan. The bride doesn't pledge obedience to her husband nor the groom "helpfulness", whatever that means. Now who invented this supposedly traditional vow and why??!
sara2009-12-28
Quoting Nour
"Name: Nour 2007-08-08
I am a Muslim, married, woman and this is not the vow I made. My husband and I said the same vow, the same length and obdiance was not part of it."
Zak2009-11-27
Take it or leave it...
This is only an EXAMPLE of one particular faith's vows. You don't have to like it, or use it, but to say that it is "crap" or anything along those lines is just being ignorant. That's a really rude to say. You should respect that this is another religion's custom. Take it or leave it.
Tash2009-11-04
Respect
These are cultural wedding vows. Don't like them? Don't use them. It is called respecting others culture and customs.
Star2009-10-21
damn thats unfair
poor Muslim women. men use them as slaves.
lala2009-09-30
are any of you muslim then way read it
are any of you muslim then way read it you just came here to say some thing bad about muslims this isnt even the real vows we have only a muslim would know those a real one not the lies being told by soulseller fake muslims wokeing for the jidf who by the way most likely made up this one but keep talking couse we got your ips
minus com high2009-09-28
yep
Pretty much what I expected. The woman is bound by religion and tradition, whereas the guy's vows don't appear to bind him at all. He says "faithful", but that means nothing when you take on multiple wives. Thank goodness I was born in a place with religious freedom.
jean2009-08-24
Not true
Muslim weddings does not have any vows.
Maryam2009-08-06
Dont butt in
I am a Muslim; I know Man and woman are not equal. Even in other societies they are not. That is why in their wedding Father brings the bride to groom, she does not come on her own and husband. She wears the veil not groom. But some peoples are in denial.
Any way Thanks for non-muslim trashy opinions. MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS AND LIVE IN FOOLS HEAVEN.
The Muslim2009-08-06
My opinion
it makes the woman out to sound like a servant rather than a bride. i cant believe women actually recite those vowes.
Julia2009-08-06
What do you expect
These vows are in line with the teachings and practice of Islaam. That is why they are what they are. These sentiments are all through their teachings and practices. Yes, they are one sided, they are meant to be.
Christian2009-07-29
miss
I am about to marry my african muslim boyfriend and I'm white english female and don't c any thing wrong with the word o bey
brenda2009-07-04
lies
No vows are taken in a muslim wedding. The bride is asked 3 times if she is willing to marry the groom. Believe what you like, but its true.
Ayla2009-06-28
Its called tradtion.
These are very old tradtional vows. All old vows are like that, it was the way of things back then. Write better ones if you don't like it!
Anthro2009-06-10
traditional Christian viewpoint
Hmm, obedience verses helpfulness?
I agree that respectful is a better word. In fact our Christian bible requires (asks?) a woman to have respect for her husband and little else. The husband is supposed to love her more than anything, to the point of laying his life down for her.
The greater expectation lays upon that the man than the woman.
Is it sexist? Such ideas have been overlooked for nearly the last hundred years, hearkening back to an age of life long marriage, before our era of a 50% divorce rate.
Cheers!
Sage2009-04-29
URGH
Still cant believe people think this is what muslim people say to each other when they get married. Irritates me. People who know nothing are the ones who get their opinions heard.
Rachel2009-03-24
URGH
Who made these wedding vows up? some idiot. This isnt what Muslims say to each other when they get married- I went to my best friends Muslim wedding and I assure you none of this crap was uttered. Cant believe you people believe this rubbish.
rachel2009-03-24
These are short.
These vows are quite short, usually ive heard longer.
And to people leaving rude comments, not all women wear Burkas ((Head to toe covering)) not all women wear Hijabs ((head scarves)) but a lot of women like myself choose to wear it for modesty, please understand I am white, and i live in America - i do it on my own free will, as well as MOST women.
We are not oppressed, we wear it willingly and with pride. Please, instead of hating the religion, go research on it.
Amanda2009-03-03
My opinion on the vows
THIS VOWS IS VERY GOOD FOR MUSLIMS NOT FOR NON MUSLIMS
IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE VOWS DON'T GIVE BAD COMMENTS FOR MUSLIMD VOWS OKK..........................
Amisha2009-03-01
islam is savagery
The Koran specifically allows men to beat their wives if they are disobedient. Argue your way out of that, you naive apologists.
Is there another religion in the world which declares all other faiths to be heresy, and promises paradise to mulims who kill 'infidels'?
allahuidiot2009-02-13
This is stupid
firstly this vow is made up becasue muslims dont have "wedding vows"
it's obviously been written by someone to purposely sound prejudice against women!
s peres2009-01-12
I Love women stuff
I love Jimmy Clewes for ever and ever
Alice Childs2008-12-09
Translation
One thing to keep in mind is these vows are translated from another language, often Arabic. Some words that can be interchangeable in translation can actually change the connotation of the phrase as shown here. Using another word, like ones brought up: repectful or helpful, would be more appropriate so as to not convey an alternate, unintended meaning.
nnn2008-12-04
Guess what
I am a Muslim girl, I wear make up, and the sun *surprisingly* touches my skin
woah
The Quran does not say that you aren't allowed to wear make up or high heels or anything like that
It's CULTURE
Maybe you should research up on the topics before typing them, you just look pathetic.
oh hey there2008-11-24
at David
Huh, so I'm guessing you have "concrete evidence" that Judaism/Christianity/etc. are real?
There's a little thing called faith, my friend.
Arias2008-11-24
y this nonsence
u all really should just get over this.. Wats up with ya'll.. Listen up, u people who thinkgs that they know islam,and that all this with women beeing untreated well, y do u bother talking! Cause is u really knew the religion u'll know that such thing isnt true. This vows are only traditionally, not everyone says them! And for u who says women are not free? Excuse me i guess u've only heard about women with Burkha!! Wake up and face reality, havnt u seen islamic women feelin more free then urselfs.. And mostly arnt covered from head to toe! Seriously, which planet do u live in.. Thailand, Egypt, Morocco, Tunisia, Dubai, Turkey etc are all muslim lands.. Tell me how are the women treated there, how do they look like? Just stop harrassing other peoples religions even though they have to b that strict, and those who compare terrorrisme with islam dont know nothing at all too.. cause a terrorist isnt muslim, and a muslim is never terrorrist, cause according to islam this is not allowed! So face up and dont be judgmental to others beliefs, n if so, dont share! I dont want u guys to love Muslims, but if a person havnt done anything wrong to u, y hate it cause of its religion! just look up and continue to walk, cause these unnecessery talk shouldnt've started at all!
Respectfull to all others2008-11-14
Repsect it
The Quran does state that a wife is to be obedient and most Muslim women in the world are very comfortable and self-confident enough to be able embrace the idea of obedience to their partner. If we cannot understand it as modern Americans, at least let's try to respect it.
Jackie2008-11-08
my 2cents
Wow! I guess everyone so far disagrees on these vows! Its the obedient part thats got me fired up. But i agree, it does make the woman sound like she's a dog.....this is crap! I sure hope both man and wife are muslim and agree with these vows because if one is of another relgion then they may not end up getting married.....especially if its the woman who's not muslim.
nonya2008-10-13
my say
this does not seem right because the wife is commiting herself a lot more than the husband which is just wrong.
man2008-10-12
Re My opinion on the vows
Yes, I agree, they are sexist, but I challenge you to find 1000 year old vows that do not place the man in the position of leadership and the woman in the position of follower/servant/whatever you want to call it.
Compare it with the christian vows on this website. The man promises to be headship/to guide/to lead, etc. The woman promises to serve/to submit/etc.
Unfortunately equalism is a recent phenomenon and nowhere in the world 1000 years ago were vows spoken which put the man and the woman on equal terms.
I, too, don't like these vows, but my greatest complaint is that they lack poetry, an unfortunate consequence of translation.
Max2008-09-06
Real Muslim Wedding Vows
The "vows" on this page look nothing like any Muslim ceremony I've been to... including my own. I'm not sure of the source of these words is, but its clear this page is not an authority.
In Islam the man symbolically proposes to the woman. There is no pledge of obedience from the woman that I've ever heard of. Also:
1) The husbands makes his pledge first.
2) The husband must offer a gift or dowry (mahr). This is Sunna, i.e. MANDATORY.
3) In some traditions, the man must propose three times before the woman answers.
4) In many traditions, the man must provide a "pre-nup" sum of money that the woman keeps in case of divorce.
5) The woman has to provide... NOTHING!
All of this is according to the Prophet. And personally, I'd believe him before this website, which doesn't reflect Islam at all.
Hamid2008-07-16
Level It Out
The best part of marrage is when it's right and serves each partner. Back in the agrarian days...it was survival. Today, social pressure? Who cares, people should be allowed to make very very very very heavy mistakes.
Daewood2008-07-13
sexist
I feel that these vows are very sexist, why is it that the wife has to be
honesty and with sincerity, to be for you an
obedient and faithful wife.”
and the husband has to be
honesty and sincerity, to be for you
a faithful and helpful husband.”
Sarah2008-07-06
Its translated incorrectly lol
besides in christianity its honour and obey
Fatima2008-05-23
just a thought
For those who are judgmental, and who believe in other religion please stop and think and remember:
THE TEN COMMANDMENTS -- EXODUS 20:1- 17
9) "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor."
a muslim2008-05-20
truth
i think that everyone needs the lord Jesus. without Jesus blood that was most willingly shared we all can look forward to an eternity in darkness and brimstone. faith without works is dead. preach the gospel of the lord for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
Eugene2008-05-20
I feel sorry for the women
Oh, sure - a Muslim woman attending her ARRANGED marriage gets asked three times if she really wants to get married, and she is able to say NO? To the same "man" who will kill her is she is raped? By his own relatives??? The father turns over his innocent daughter to some pig who treats her like crap for the rest of her life - she's got to stay covered from head to toe, she can't drive, work, wear makeup, have fun, laugh, be her own person or anything good. She must work like a dog, look like a dog and act like a beaten dog! I am so glad I was born in this country - I never would have made it under those rules! Yuk!!
I feel sorry for all those women - I don't care if they SAY they are happy, they don't know what it is to be happy or free, so until they have a taste of freedom and respect and true caring, they are miserable! Pray for them.
Gloria2008-05-14
no kidding
In a religion where the women are forced to wear clothing that covers them completely from ever feeling the warmth of the sun on their skin, where women are abused in the name of "the holy prophet", and men are permitted to cheat on their wives, not to mention the female circumcison that makes it physically impossible for the female to enjoy sex, is it really all that suprising that it would sound like they wre trading dogs? Yes, their religion is sexist... men do what ever you want with out consequences, women, on the other hand, step out of line and you will pay for it. Yes, again, the woman commits a lot more in a muslim marriage than the man... he gets to live to his hearts contentment and she gets the pleasure (*hint of sarcasm*) with cleaning, cooking, rearing his children, have a horrible sex life with a man that probaly has multiple partners, and trying all of her life to make a lost man happy. And this, apparently, beautiful thing(*hint of sarcasm*), is the fastest growing religion in the world... in stead of the religion/ relationship with a savior, who loves you and laid down his life for you and your husband to do the same, without thinking. YOU CHOOSE.
Carolinalady2008-04-21
Never heard of this one
I apologise but I find a need to clarify. I'm a Musllim and there are no specific vows. What happens is that the solemniser will seek permission from the woman whether she wishes to be married to the man. Only when her consent is obtained can the marriage take place. This is the true Muslim practice. Even if a marriage is arranged, the decision is still up to the woman.
The vow above appears be a tribal or community-based. What I did vow to my wife was to honor her, protect her and entrust her with my love and property. On her part, she promised to honor me, be my confidant and share our lives as one.
Roslan2008-04-16
so true
I also believe this is very sexist. I mean, whats up with the whole ovedient thing.
Katikinz2008-03-31
wow
who ever posted this as muslim wedding vows should do their research before they post wrong information. These are NOT muslim vows and for the people (such as above) who believe this to be true is STUPID! Learn and educate yourself before you start to JUDGE!
Lid2008-03-18
hmmm
thats interesting how the woman's vows are much longer the the man's.
hmmmm.....
vron2008-02-29
this is for P Oneill
that's what you call "being prejudice". staright away assuming that the vows is trying to put down the women. why do people always look at us and judge us like as if Islam has taught all the men to treat their wives very badly??? you can find other men with different nationality, different background and religion whom treat their wives unfairly. you've got to realise that religion was never there to teach bad, its the people. so next time before anyone says anything negative about certain things, do your research initially so you know what you're saying and you can stop your mouth from talking sh*t.
aaaaaa2008-02-25
WHAT
Where did you get this crap? It has nothing to do with being muslim or islam.
Nassim Paruk2008-02-11
sad
yes Mr Muslim man,remember to be "helpful"...a womans role in life is NOT to do everything for YOU!!!!
buff bride2008-02-01
Ignorance
I think Graine, you need to research a little more before you make ignorant comments. Women in islam have more rights over thier husbands than in any other religion and to be honest what do you know about committment anyway..
Shazad2007-10-19
muslim
i am muslim and this is not true!
muslim2007-10-15
Hypocrites
Funny that no one made the same objection to the sexist Christian vows.
Matt2007-10-14
its not your culture
it's not mine either, but don't be stupid, if you aren't muslim, it has nothing to do with you
erin2007-09-18
And...
...What exactly? What gives you the right to pass judgment on these vows? For a start, a lot of the traditional Christian ones are the same ('To love, honour and obey' anyone?). For another thing, sure it's stereotypical but unfortunately that's the way some people like it.
But hey! You don't like it, here's an idea: don't use it!
mr punch2007-09-05
Hmm...
I guess we can truly judge a society by how they treat their women. Earth has a long way to go...
Mad Cow2007-08-30
Not Current
I am a Muslim, married, woman and this is not the vow I made. My husband and I said the same vow, the same length and obdiance was not part of it.
Nour2007-08-08
to GJR
"Islam was the first religion to give rights to women and affords them great respect."
I guess that´s why I see all Islamic women covered up from head to toe, while the men go about in supertight t-shirts and gold chains.
Voskat2007-07-12
to Mariam
"Everyone has their own Culture and own way of life.
DEAL WITH IT!"
Yeah, let them suppress and abuse women all they like. It´s their way of life after all.
By "DEAL WITH IT", I assume you mean: The next time you see the victims, just turn off your television and pretend it´s not happening.
Voskat2007-07-12
Ignorant
Women and men are NOT equal in the Quran.
Read the book before you claim that you´re a Muslim.
Voskat2007-07-12
This is why their is war
The ignorance that is out there.
So everyone hates muslims now?
Please Don't bring up 9-11 because if you really want to talk about that you should ask your own government. I'm sure they have some answers and probably a blue print of it all!
Why can't people just be respectful of other peoples beliefs?
Everyone has their own Culture and own way of life.
DEAL WITH IT!
alot of woman do it, They let the man be the man and be HEAD of the House... that is being an obidient wife. Making sure Dinner is cooked and kids taken care of, laundry and dishes are done!
A LOT of White Bread American women do it! Alot of woman want their man satisfied...
isnt that considered Obidient?
Mariam2007-06-22
Where is the middle
As noted in a comment above, we look on Islam as an extreme relegion..... so, if you are not, then were is the voice of reason from your relegious leaders, where were they after 9-11, where are they now in East Asia as Muslims behead Indue..... the list goes on....
Wow2007-06-10
obediant
i dont think the wife should be obidient; i am fully respectful of my wife rosie in our marrige. i even help her with the washing up...lol!!
Richard Marley2007-06-08
Wow
Under Sharia law a husband can divorce his wife simply by telling her, "you are divorced," three times, while women seeking separation must navigate a multitude of legal hurdles that usually take two years to complete.
Barbara2007-06-07
The height of bigotry
Firstly, there is no such thing as a muslim wedding vow and the comments posted on this site are extremely rude - clearly only because they are written by ignorant bigots.
Secondly, Islam was the first religion to give rights to women and affords them great respect.
Thirdly, should you want proof that Islam is the true religion, than read up on it and educate yourself. God has provided all the information to aid in searching for the truth. Instead of remaining ignorant and intolerant, why not try a little respect for the unknown and educate yourself - if nothing else you may become a slightly better person for it.
GJR2007-06-03
not the true faith
I have heard many Muslims make many statements about their religion, but not one of them has ever come forward to prove that theirs is the true faith. Is there a Muslim anywhere who is willing to step forward and actually prove that Islam is the real faith? Where is the historical accuracy? Where is the concrete evidence? Religion is not just about what you want to believe in, it is about what's true and what's not true. Can anyone please step forward, at the risk of denouncing his or her faith in public, and actually prove Islam to be true? I didn't think so.
David2007-05-26
This is my opinion
please no one of us Muslims said anything about your wedding vows although that after a while u forget this vows and start to disrespect your other half ..
its not a crap and its for sure not a sexist
Layaly2007-04-26
judge not the action but intent
I believe in order to understand a certain something you need to learn much more about it. I have study many religions and it is islam that women get the most respect for what they do..Islam is away of life rather than a religion..both man and women are treated of equal..So before judging this subject or anything in life ask yourself how much do you really know and how much do you choose to base your opinion on.....In conclusion i understand how this may be mistaken as being stereotypical or biased when indeed its not... Have a fantastic day...
mere2007-04-24
Learn from us
You people speak of which you know nothing. A muslim husban can loves his wife, the mother of his sons. It her responsibility to provide sons, if she not fulfil that responsibility, she not worthy of marriage and deceived husban! Were she to do so, she is dog, Holy Quar‘an and the Holy Prophet condemn her. You cannot understand because you not Muslim, we can love our dog, wife, truck, but no where are we commanded to love anything in Holy Quar‘an!
Ronnyooo2007-04-09
Lovely
These vows are showing what marriage was built on and what it should still be.
Bridget2007-04-05
Respect each other
In the Muslim religion the man is in charge of the family, where as in Christian family things are generally run by the two, TOGETHER, as one. There is not equality for man and woman in the Muslim faith. It is clearly reflected with these vows. (whether there are vows in a Muslim marriage or not)Also, I think it is extremely immature to condemn people to hell and throw out insults, over something as silly as this. Please people, try to respect each others opinions.
Anosha Syeda2007-03-01
The vows
These vows made the man sound in control! I don't like that. I think when you get married both people should have a fair say in everything that is going on. If I were getting married these vows would not be on my list.
E.T.2007-03-01
Make qulaified statements
In the Current climate Islam is synoymus with extremism. This is very sad. There are extremists in every faith. they just don't get the attention of the media.
what is sadder is People actually beleive the negativity that they are fed and make unqulified statements such as these on this site.
Junior and echo are correct in that there are no muslim vows.
The ceremnoy consists of prayers and the bride is asked 3 time if she wants to marry the groom. to make certain that she is a willing participant and that she really does want to get married.
There are arranged marriages in the w
Please for the sake of humanity, please qulaify your staments before making ones that will inflame and create more hatred in the world.
Noor2007-02-20
...
there's really no such wedding vow in a muslim wedding ceremony. and for those people don't comment on something which you really doesn't know anything about.
echo2006-07-17
who wrote this
This is all made up... there are no such vows in a muslim wedding ceremony..
junior2006-07-10
MY VIEW
well u bunch of people just dunnoe wat muslim wedding is all about...
this vow is not sexist at all.
the man is in charge of the family and we as a wife has to respect that.
if u tink its a crap,than just get lost and may u rot in hell..
LadyInDemaNd2006-06-25
comments
islam is a divine religion, all u snooty opinionated idiots should shove ur bloody opinions up ur ass.
G T H2006-02-08
just my 2cents
yea thats exactly as i was thinking. i do not like this vow. it sounds like it makes the man in complete control, and the woman has to follow everything he says, or tells her to do. an obedient wife. sometimes theres a line, and this vow has no lines. respecting each other is more like it. this is all i gotta say abt this.. so called "vow"
becca2006-01-15
My opinion on the vows
I think these vows are very sexist and it makes the bride sound more like a dog rather than a women. The bride seems to be commiting herself a lot more than the man does and the way the bride says "obedient" and the man says "helpful" completely backs up the way men and women are stereotyped.
Graine2005-11-30
Just my opinion
I'm not so sure about the word "obedient" remaining in the vow. Respectful is a better word.
the vows
Some people might call these vows "traditional" others may call it "respectful" but I'm really dissapointed that this is whats coming out of some peoples mouths in the 20th century saying in their wedding vows and what this site condones and believes is right. Women should be respectful but as should men, women should work hard and support their family and as should men. These ways of thinking above are outdated and objectify women into cleaning objects almost. I dont understand why women are still looked at only as a mop and a dust pan and broom or if their lucky a mother of kids. Not only do women have every right to have these roles shared but I strongly believe men get away with murder and are seen as these masculine figures in society when in reality, most of them are as seen in the vows above, massoginistic empty, pathetic, delusional outdated air heads.
Francessca 2024-08-05
the vows
Some people might call these vows "traditional" others may call it "respectful" but I'm really dissapointed that this is whats coming out of some peoples mouths in the 20th century saying in their wedding vows and what this site condones and believes is right. Women should be respectful but as should men, women should work hard and support their family and as should men. These ways of thinking above are outdated and objectify women into cleaning objects almost. I dont understand why women are still looked at only as a mop and a dust pan and broom or if their lucky a mother of kids. Not only do women have every right to have these roles shared but I strongly believe men get away with murder and are seen as these masculine figures in society when in reality, most of them are as seen in the vows above, massoginistic empty, pathetic, delusional outdated air heads.
Francessca 2024-08-05
Wive is serve
A wife if to be obedient and serve her husband. She is the property of her husband. Allah knows best.
Ali 2019-11-23
Mr
This is incomplete vows. Tge amount of the gift should be mentioned. Sometimes it is fully paid, sometimes divided into prepaid and postpaid.
Mohannad 2019-09-20
Lom
Wow
Shane Beckford 2017-04-06
REAL ISLAM :) but your just going to ignore and twist
when a couple have decided beforehand that they like each other and are happy with what eac person brings into their life in ISLAM they get engaged, then they are able to get to know each other on a deeper level even then the man or woman may leave. you talk about equality it is said that if a woman does not even like the shape of the mans beard or his voice, personality she can leave him. when they get married on the day the they sit with a imam(pastor) parents and family from both sides. a verse is read loudly in the quran if it is done in the mosque then random members also are witnesses of the marriage. the verse is read everyone raises there hands and prays after the pastor and says ameen then the woman is asked many times and the man many times. then they both sign and asked again privately so that they do not feel pressured. this ususally happens in the morning so it is more private and the big event where everyones family comes and eats and dances is later on.
shifa 2016-11-12
Nanny
I care for the children of a beautiful Pakistani family and am enjoying learning more of their culture and faith. My fiancée and I are searching for the perfect vows to reflect how the Holy Ones fit into our relationship. Perfectly beautiful.
Jody 2016-09-14
wedding vows
The name of allaha the merciful and beneficial should be added at first of the vow.
khurshid rahman 2014-08-05
muslkim
love this vows, mean the world to me always obedient to my man
saynotooQ 2014-03-03
wow
that is the shortest sweetest vow ive ever read. it says everything in so few words. my eyes watered and my heart melted.
Ameera 2013-10-05
just my opinion
you should put more to the grooms vows to spice it up a bit but i love the words obedient should respect nd you should put something like i would hold you in your care or i will cater to you in all your might
daishane 2012-10-19
NOT islam
Hello guys, just wanted to say that wedding vows do exist in Islam, and this is NOT it. All of it is not correct. Whoever created this vow wanted to show some hate towards Islam through the media by showing that Muslim woman are OBEDIENT to their husbands, which is a load of crap. Anyways try as much as you may to make the image appear poor towards, Islam is Islam and will always be.
sammy 2012-07-19
Wow....
Where is God,the keeper of all marriages?
Rochelle Gaes 2012-06-26
I am with Bob
You all need to find out more about a Muslim wedding and the vows. This ain't it...
Muslimah 2012-05-29
Then what is wrong
If this is wrong then what is normally said?
Llama 2012-04-18
just saying...
how can muslim men be faithful when they can marry four more wives... such hypocrisy.
koolalalooo 2012-04-17
Not quite
My husband and I have been married for 2years now and I do not I repeat do not back up these vows. There is no such way so I suggest the person responsible for the post get the correct and proper information. I mean obedient really? Its a given to be faithful and true to your spouse but that word has no place in how a ceremony is performed or "vows" exchanged. Get it together please and thank you.
Ashadia Abdul 2012-04-16
....
There is no wedding vows in Islam, but in Islam, we have the obligation that has to be fulfilled by both parties. the vow that all of you arguing is only a matter of guidance on how the marriage would be. The wife is bound to serve her husband so long it does not against Islam, and the husband is bound to provide for the wife. We Muslims have no problem reading this 'wedding vow' because we know the intention behind it. If the non-muslims do not like it, do not leave any mean comment. Please respect other religion and beliefs.
my opinion 2012-03-01
My thoughts
The word "Obedent" is a bad represenation of muslim vows. Helpful or respectful would be better suited.
Anon 2012-02-19
se moer
wat ek se net niks soes dit ni ek moet my kop laat lees dai tyd ja ...ma shukran vi die vows
shaheedah 2012-01-13
Muslim wedding do not have vows
Muslim wedding don't have wedding vow. the obligation of husband and wife is all written in Al Quran, the bride and the groom doesn't need to vow because to be with their husband/wife in sickness and health, happiness and sorrow, etc are their obligation as a muslim. it's absolute.
instead there are ijab-kabul, in ceremonial the father of the bride give his daughter to the groom, and the groom accept it. of course the father must ask his daughter if she really love him and want the men to be her husband.
i hope u understand what i mean. i'm not fluent in english though
Amanda 2012-01-07
vow
Pls can this vow be made while slippering the ring?pls I'd really appreciate it if you can reply
kofo 2011-11-22
Reality Check
I am a Muslim woman, and let me inform you guys :
1. We do not actually have wedding vows. So whatever is written up there is pointless.
2. Women are not being oppressed. I am one, and I know better. What gives you guys the right to judge from the outside?
Wake up to reality....
Juv 2011-08-14
Correction
I would like to correct my earlier comment about equality between men and women. Here is a response when a Muslim scholar was asked about the issue:
"This word – equality – which many thinkers in both the east and the west advocate in various fields of life is a word which is based on deviation and a lack of understanding, especially when the speaker attributes this idea of equality to the Qur’aan and to Islam."
The scholar goes on to say:
"But if we say justice, which means giving each one that to which he or she is entitled, this misunderstanding no longer applies, and the word used is correct. Hence it does not say in the Qur’aan that Allaah enjoins equality, rather it says (interpretation of the meaning):
“Verily, Allaah enjoins Al‑‘Adl (i.e. justice)”
Bottom line is that study Islam as a whole not just one aspect because you will never get the full picture that way for anything.
Someone 2011-08-04
Some Thoughts
I totally agree with Connie. Christianity and Islam share very similar moral beliefs, however, sadly people have changed many aspects of Christianity because they just don't like it. One cannot just tailor his/her faith to fit their own desires. It no longer remains faith. One of the reasons why Muslims keep to their faith so strongly is because the word "Muslim" means to completely submit to God. It is a core belief. That is why Muslims do not change their morality because that is given only by God. Humans cannot interfere in what God wants them to do.
Also, men and women in Islam are equal in front of God, however, they have different roles to play in this life. Very similar to what Connie said about how it is in purer Christianity. In marriage, the man is the head of the household but that does not give him the right to treat his wife and family in any dishonorable way. They all work together. Also, there are no formal wedding vows. People in earlier posts have already gone over how a wedding in Islam takes place.
This, along with the fundamentals of Islam are a very deep and thought provoking subjects. The Qur'an often says that this way of life and religion is for those who think and use their intellect. Those who say negative things about Islam should deeply study it and ask Muslims if any questions or ambiguities they may have. Study it from the source which are the Qur'an and the life and traditions of the Prophet. Study it in non-biased way. A neutral way. Many women think that Islam keeps women in an inferior status. However, when they study it and learn about it, they embrace it. It is because it is not just a religion it is a complete way of life. If one only takes parts of it then it will seem very strange, indeed. That is with everything in life. One should look at Islam as a whole and that can only happen if they learn about it from its very core principles.
Someone 2011-08-04
The truth bringer
That is why the world is so messed up today. As a catholic I am sometimes so sad. Our women get married looking like hookers, live with the guys before marriage, have kids with the guys before marriage and dont care how they enter the church, this is the majority of most christian religon where no woman covers their head and its in any christian bible for us to do so. Head covering is not a muslim thing. But guess what we didn't like that so we changed it. Then the original christian wedding vows were to love honor and obey, but guess what we didn't like that so we changed that, and in the catholic faith a woman would of never been seen going to mass with out a head covering, but we didn't like that so we changed that. Christianity is very similar to muslim, its just that muslims are more true to their faith and hold the ancient traditions and cultures that we loose. What is so sexist about a woman loving a man and trusting him to guide you, protect, you and do what's best for you? What is so wrong with belonging to someone who loves you, would die for you and is spending the rest of their lives for you. I love my catholic fate but I am greatly saddened by the lost of virtue, respect, and honor that we so-called modern catholics have interjected into the faith. To all of you that are Muslims just know that most of the negative comments are from real christians either and as a real christian catholic I SAY SORRY for what they have written
Connie 2011-07-14
WHATS THE BIG DEAL
Whats up with all the sexist talk? Any religon that is traditional will always say for a woman to be an obidient bride. The original christian vows are to love honor and obey, for the wife. Once again instead of following their religon and having trust and faith that God knows what he is doing when he commands us, we changed them. The men are trusted to be faithful, loving, and sincere to us for all time. And the woman to be supportive and respectful to her husband. It creates a healthy balance to marriage, what is the big deal?? I am woman and I don't feel degraded and I want my man to be the head of the household, I want him to be my protector, the one who cares for me, the one who provides, and the one who drives and pushes the family. Funny, how women say they don't want them or cry sexist but every woman dreams of a rich man to take care of them. Without gender roles you can be sure to continue to wacth the divorce rate sky rocket as people dont know what to do, or how to act. I have a great husband and yes I respect him as head of the house hold. And respects me as his wife and my place in the family. I am catholic.
connie 2011-07-14
just mine
you guys all really doesn't know the essential of that vow_
baldybuddy 2011-04-08
Knowledge
You guys apparently know little to nothing about the Muslim faith.
Bob Johnson 2011-04-04
what I feel
This vows express the role of the couple perfectly!
Sarah 2011-02-28
come on
No offenses to you Muslim.We were just sharing our opinions what we think. At least it might not be the exact words as your vows but I'm sure its close come on. I respect how you muslims feel. But at least our christians vows we say the same thing to one another.
miranda 2011-02-11
To my Muslim Brothers and Sisters
My brothers and sisters,
As-salamu alaykum Wahramatullah Wabarakatuh.
Just let them say whatever they want about our religion. Allah will always be there to punish them in the grave and in the hereafter's life. We are all lucky that we are muslims- we know the truth. Just respect their opinion about it, let them talk, even if they don't know what they are talking about and we will see who will ask for so much mercy on the Final Judgement.
People who talk about something they don't know are more prone to danger.
Aisha 2011-02-09
converting to Muslim
I some what agree, but those are just words and its in the heart of the couples that will deter,mine their type of relationship.
Mr. converting 2010-12-26
vow
i think that the vow is a bit boring no offence but to improve it you could make it a bit more interesting and romantic
mariya 2010-12-16
Umm Hello People
Just wanted to reiterate what Rachel said. Click on the link for "Christian Wedding Vows". Its all about the woman being obedient and the man being head of the relationship. Conservative Christians should find the words of the Muslim wedding familiar. Idiots who bash Islam just because it's Islam are narrow-minded hypocrites. And if you truly do hate these vows, you should hate the Christian vows just as much.
Mak 2010-12-03
resepect
Ya'll should resepect yourselves, we dont insult your traditions and religion, so you do the same... You got your religion and I got mine so mind your business please and thank you.
Edd 2010-11-22
Garbage
Wow Muslims are full of shit. Ive read the Quran and the things that the brides have to say at there weddings are rediculus and embarassing. I dont know how or why a Muslim bride is ok with saying such things at her own wedding.
Jon 2010-11-03
My opinion
My soon to be husband is Muslim and neither of us agree with the word "OBEDIENT". Times have changes and things are not that way anymore.
Jenny 2010-11-01
my op
It's actually beautiful how that girl pleased to marry the groom:') i wanna be a muslim!
Lakesha 2010-10-16
its good
the comments here are just a result of stupid brainwashed and ignorant Americans (and i am native American, but not one of the aforementioned). it's just a result of endless propaganda, and it makes me sick to see what a bunch of morons i am surrounded by in the USA. pea-brain tunnel-vision morons. i apologize on behalf of all of them. they think they are the center of the universe, and the world revolves around their ignorance, and have no ability to think for themselves. they think they are superior by nit-picking, while complaining about stereotypes amidst stereotyping themselves. HYPOCRITES. the words are beautiful, unless you are a femi-nazi.
chad 2010-10-11
Sigh
All of the christian wedding vows are saying the same thing, its just long and drawn out. But in all of them they said "Submit to you" and "Obedient and faithful wife" (same line) and there is even more focus on the aspect of male leadership and female submissiveness... and I still don't get what is wrong with listening to your husband and allowing him to lead the house. Women are so obsessed with competing for the "best" position or with becoming entirely equal to men. If women and men were meant to be completely equal they'd have been created equal... were not equal and that is because we are the halves of each other. Man does not equal woman but man and woman = one whole. Stop picking on Islam.
Rachel 2010-09-14
so....
so... i'm not muslim, but a man is a man and a woman is a woman. thats how god made us. thats just how things are and its not sterotyped. the sooner people accept that the happier they'll be. :)
nick 2010-08-14
its only a vow
jeezz....its only a vow... a promise we make to each other when we get married. y all the fuss??... don't like the word obedient.. fine... change it as long its appropriate. don't like the vow at all, don't use it... don't comment on it...just go away..don't have to be rude and post all this crap up.... from what I've researched, theres other EXAMPLES of vow can be used..not only this one... and please be respectful of other religion...
Anonymous 2010-08-02
why
Why are people upset about these vows. Christains vows are just about the same "love and obey till death do us apart" only thing differant is most christains are lying, divorce rates prove that.
Tracy 2010-05-18
Think for a second
This vow is not a traditional vow of a Muslim wedding and its just what someone has stated as their opinion of it. The Equality in love and respect between a man and woman is very important in Islam.
Common Sense 2010-05-10
some respect
eros...and the rest of u, u know nothing about Islam. There are no such vows in Islam, this is made up by some chancer. Guys dont be so intolerant especially if you know nothing about another religion, rather ask a proper muslim!
jenny 2010-02-21
Ownership
This is a vow of ownership where the woman has subjugated herself to the man as required in a man's point of view. Any person who is a convert must be asking themselves why would I agree to this.
Eros 2010-02-20
This Is Not Appreciated
First things first... Allah is God not the prophet Mohammad. From what I have read in here this all makes me very sad that there are so many people who are uneducated on what the Muslim faith consists of... Many people have said that this religion is the first to provide women with rights... so here are a few examples... Back in the day when this religion began, women everywhere, not just the future Muslims, were set in the role of the homemaker not able to go out or work because in those times men could literally "do" whatever they wanted. By covering up the women this freed them to be able to go outside of the home and not be objectified. The cultures where the women walk behind the men, well that is for their protection as well. Islam is the first to provide women with rights actually allowing them a divorce. And if anyone brings up the violence that has been in the news, first do your research and know that those people are not really Muslims in the same way the KKK are not really Christians, Just so you know Jesus was a Jew from the Middle East(an Arab). I know this isn't going to change the mind of any of you who are so set in your ways of hating, just try remember that Jesus brought a message of acceptance and tolerance, not of violence and hatred, so even if you don't feel what they are doing is right remember what Christianity is about.
Miss 2010-02-13
stupid
PLEASE LEARN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RELIGION AND CULTURE!! DONT BE SO DAMN IGNORANT! THESE ARE CULTURAL VOWS THAT SOMEONES GRANNY MADE UP, ITS GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM
nas 2010-01-22
vows
Jeez u people are bloody ignorant. Islam has no wedding vows like this. plz do ur research properly. and before u ignorant people diss Islam and it's women... clean up your own back yards bcoz the highest rate of divorce, infidelity and abuse is found in the british and american societies. islam respects women, that is why so many of your women are converting to Islam.
miss.r.s.a 2010-01-22
Typical
allah must have hated women when he was alive, the man does as he wants and the woman is just a baby churning machine with no rights
Lesley 2010-01-21
My opinion
How comes the woman has to read a longer piece than the man. Thats not fair is it?
Siera 2010-01-14
no wedding vows in islam
there are no wedding vows in islam, the imam just makes a speech, they ask the bride three times, if she wants to get married, and the groom once, when they both say yes, they get married.
moe 2010-01-07
waste of a life
Religion what a waste of a life! Dedicating your whole life to something that isn't even real. It only seems real because you have been taught it all your life and you don't know any better. It feels good to have an open mind and to be objective and rational and not to live a life of falsehood.
Bill 2010-01-06
No surpirses here
it's very evident that the muslim faith holds little respect for women.as a male of no faith I find this disgusting and denigrating this is something emanating from the stone age
Bill 2010-01-06
correction
There is no such thing as "vows" in a traditional muslim wedding. The bride and groom are asked if they will take each other, then everyone present recites the fatiha, a surate of the curan. The bride doesn't pledge obedience to her husband nor the groom "helpfulness", whatever that means. Now who invented this supposedly traditional vow and why??!
sara 2009-12-28
Quoting Nour
"Name: Nour 2007-08-08
I am a Muslim, married, woman and this is not the vow I made. My husband and I said the same vow, the same length and obdiance was not part of it."
Zak 2009-11-27
Take it or leave it...
This is only an EXAMPLE of one particular faith's vows. You don't have to like it, or use it, but to say that it is "crap" or anything along those lines is just being ignorant. That's a really rude to say. You should respect that this is another religion's custom. Take it or leave it.
Tash 2009-11-04
Respect
These are cultural wedding vows. Don't like them? Don't use them. It is called respecting others culture and customs.
Star 2009-10-21
damn thats unfair
poor Muslim women. men use them as slaves.
lala 2009-09-30
are any of you muslim then way read it
are any of you muslim then way read it you just came here to say some thing bad about muslims this isnt even the real vows we have only a muslim would know those a real one not the lies being told by soulseller fake muslims wokeing for the jidf who by the way most likely made up this one but keep talking couse we got your ips
minus com high 2009-09-28
yep
Pretty much what I expected. The woman is bound by religion and tradition, whereas the guy's vows don't appear to bind him at all. He says "faithful", but that means nothing when you take on multiple wives. Thank goodness I was born in a place with religious freedom.
jean 2009-08-24
Not true
Muslim weddings does not have any vows.
Maryam 2009-08-06
Dont butt in
I am a Muslim; I know Man and woman are not equal. Even in other societies they are not. That is why in their wedding Father brings the bride to groom, she does not come on her own and husband. She wears the veil not groom. But some peoples are in denial.
Any way Thanks for non-muslim trashy opinions. MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS AND LIVE IN FOOLS HEAVEN.
The Muslim 2009-08-06
My opinion
it makes the woman out to sound like a servant rather than a bride. i cant believe women actually recite those vowes.
Julia 2009-08-06
What do you expect
These vows are in line with the teachings and practice of Islaam. That is why they are what they are. These sentiments are all through their teachings and practices. Yes, they are one sided, they are meant to be.
Christian 2009-07-29
miss
I am about to marry my african muslim boyfriend and I'm white english female and don't c any thing wrong with the word o bey
brenda 2009-07-04
lies
No vows are taken in a muslim wedding. The bride is asked 3 times if she is willing to marry the groom. Believe what you like, but its true.
Ayla 2009-06-28
Its called tradtion.
These are very old tradtional vows. All old vows are like that, it was the way of things back then. Write better ones if you don't like it!
Anthro 2009-06-10
traditional Christian viewpoint
Hmm, obedience verses helpfulness?
I agree that respectful is a better word. In fact our Christian bible requires (asks?) a woman to have respect for her husband and little else. The husband is supposed to love her more than anything, to the point of laying his life down for her.
The greater expectation lays upon that the man than the woman.
Is it sexist? Such ideas have been overlooked for nearly the last hundred years, hearkening back to an age of life long marriage, before our era of a 50% divorce rate.
Cheers!
Sage 2009-04-29
URGH
Still cant believe people think this is what muslim people say to each other when they get married. Irritates me. People who know nothing are the ones who get their opinions heard.
Rachel 2009-03-24
URGH
Who made these wedding vows up? some idiot. This isnt what Muslims say to each other when they get married- I went to my best friends Muslim wedding and I assure you none of this crap was uttered. Cant believe you people believe this rubbish.
rachel 2009-03-24
These are short.
These vows are quite short, usually ive heard longer.
And to people leaving rude comments, not all women wear Burkas ((Head to toe covering)) not all women wear Hijabs ((head scarves)) but a lot of women like myself choose to wear it for modesty, please understand I am white, and i live in America - i do it on my own free will, as well as MOST women.
We are not oppressed, we wear it willingly and with pride. Please, instead of hating the religion, go research on it.
Amanda 2009-03-03
My opinion on the vows
THIS VOWS IS VERY GOOD FOR MUSLIMS NOT FOR NON MUSLIMS
IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE VOWS DON'T GIVE BAD COMMENTS FOR MUSLIMD VOWS OKK..........................
Amisha 2009-03-01
islam is savagery
The Koran specifically allows men to beat their wives if they are disobedient. Argue your way out of that, you naive apologists.
Is there another religion in the world which declares all other faiths to be heresy, and promises paradise to mulims who kill 'infidels'?
allahuidiot 2009-02-13
This is stupid
firstly this vow is made up becasue muslims dont have "wedding vows"
it's obviously been written by someone to purposely sound prejudice against women!
s peres 2009-01-12
I Love women stuff
I love Jimmy Clewes for ever and ever
Alice Childs 2008-12-09
Translation
One thing to keep in mind is these vows are translated from another language, often Arabic. Some words that can be interchangeable in translation can actually change the connotation of the phrase as shown here. Using another word, like ones brought up: repectful or helpful, would be more appropriate so as to not convey an alternate, unintended meaning.
nnn 2008-12-04
Guess what
I am a Muslim girl, I wear make up, and the sun *surprisingly* touches my skin
woah
The Quran does not say that you aren't allowed to wear make up or high heels or anything like that
It's CULTURE
Maybe you should research up on the topics before typing them, you just look pathetic.
oh hey there 2008-11-24
at David
Huh, so I'm guessing you have "concrete evidence" that Judaism/Christianity/etc. are real?
There's a little thing called faith, my friend.
Arias 2008-11-24
y this nonsence
u all really should just get over this.. Wats up with ya'll.. Listen up, u people who thinkgs that they know islam,and that all this with women beeing untreated well, y do u bother talking! Cause is u really knew the religion u'll know that such thing isnt true. This vows are only traditionally, not everyone says them! And for u who says women are not free? Excuse me i guess u've only heard about women with Burkha!! Wake up and face reality, havnt u seen islamic women feelin more free then urselfs.. And mostly arnt covered from head to toe! Seriously, which planet do u live in.. Thailand, Egypt, Morocco, Tunisia, Dubai, Turkey etc are all muslim lands.. Tell me how are the women treated there, how do they look like? Just stop harrassing other peoples religions even though they have to b that strict, and those who compare terrorrisme with islam dont know nothing at all too.. cause a terrorist isnt muslim, and a muslim is never terrorrist, cause according to islam this is not allowed! So face up and dont be judgmental to others beliefs, n if so, dont share! I dont want u guys to love Muslims, but if a person havnt done anything wrong to u, y hate it cause of its religion! just look up and continue to walk, cause these unnecessery talk shouldnt've started at all!
Respectfull to all others 2008-11-14
Repsect it
The Quran does state that a wife is to be obedient and most Muslim women in the world are very comfortable and self-confident enough to be able embrace the idea of obedience to their partner. If we cannot understand it as modern Americans, at least let's try to respect it.
Jackie 2008-11-08
my 2cents
Wow! I guess everyone so far disagrees on these vows! Its the obedient part thats got me fired up. But i agree, it does make the woman sound like she's a dog.....this is crap! I sure hope both man and wife are muslim and agree with these vows because if one is of another relgion then they may not end up getting married.....especially if its the woman who's not muslim.
nonya 2008-10-13
my say
this does not seem right because the wife is commiting herself a lot more than the husband which is just wrong.
man 2008-10-12
Re My opinion on the vows
Yes, I agree, they are sexist, but I challenge you to find 1000 year old vows that do not place the man in the position of leadership and the woman in the position of follower/servant/whatever you want to call it.
Compare it with the christian vows on this website. The man promises to be headship/to guide/to lead, etc. The woman promises to serve/to submit/etc.
Unfortunately equalism is a recent phenomenon and nowhere in the world 1000 years ago were vows spoken which put the man and the woman on equal terms.
I, too, don't like these vows, but my greatest complaint is that they lack poetry, an unfortunate consequence of translation.
Max 2008-09-06
Real Muslim Wedding Vows
The "vows" on this page look nothing like any Muslim ceremony I've been to... including my own. I'm not sure of the source of these words is, but its clear this page is not an authority.
In Islam the man symbolically proposes to the woman. There is no pledge of obedience from the woman that I've ever heard of. Also:
1) The husbands makes his pledge first.
2) The husband must offer a gift or dowry (mahr). This is Sunna, i.e. MANDATORY.
3) In some traditions, the man must propose three times before the woman answers.
4) In many traditions, the man must provide a "pre-nup" sum of money that the woman keeps in case of divorce.
5) The woman has to provide... NOTHING!
All of this is according to the Prophet. And personally, I'd believe him before this website, which doesn't reflect Islam at all.
Hamid 2008-07-16
Level It Out
The best part of marrage is when it's right and serves each partner. Back in the agrarian days...it was survival. Today, social pressure? Who cares, people should be allowed to make very very very very heavy mistakes.
Daewood 2008-07-13
sexist
I feel that these vows are very sexist, why is it that the wife has to be
honesty and with sincerity, to be for you an
obedient and faithful wife.”
and the husband has to be
honesty and sincerity, to be for you
a faithful and helpful husband.”
Sarah 2008-07-06
Its translated incorrectly lol
besides in christianity its honour and obey
Fatima 2008-05-23
just a thought
For those who are judgmental, and who believe in other religion please stop and think and remember:
THE TEN COMMANDMENTS -- EXODUS 20:1- 17
9) "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor."
a muslim 2008-05-20
truth
i think that everyone needs the lord Jesus. without Jesus blood that was most willingly shared we all can look forward to an eternity in darkness and brimstone. faith without works is dead. preach the gospel of the lord for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
Eugene 2008-05-20
I feel sorry for the women
Oh, sure - a Muslim woman attending her ARRANGED marriage gets asked three times if she really wants to get married, and she is able to say NO? To the same "man" who will kill her is she is raped? By his own relatives??? The father turns over his innocent daughter to some pig who treats her like crap for the rest of her life - she's got to stay covered from head to toe, she can't drive, work, wear makeup, have fun, laugh, be her own person or anything good. She must work like a dog, look like a dog and act like a beaten dog! I am so glad I was born in this country - I never would have made it under those rules! Yuk!!
I feel sorry for all those women - I don't care if they SAY they are happy, they don't know what it is to be happy or free, so until they have a taste of freedom and respect and true caring, they are miserable! Pray for them.
Gloria 2008-05-14
no kidding
In a religion where the women are forced to wear clothing that covers them completely from ever feeling the warmth of the sun on their skin, where women are abused in the name of "the holy prophet", and men are permitted to cheat on their wives, not to mention the female circumcison that makes it physically impossible for the female to enjoy sex, is it really all that suprising that it would sound like they wre trading dogs? Yes, their religion is sexist... men do what ever you want with out consequences, women, on the other hand, step out of line and you will pay for it. Yes, again, the woman commits a lot more in a muslim marriage than the man... he gets to live to his hearts contentment and she gets the pleasure (*hint of sarcasm*) with cleaning, cooking, rearing his children, have a horrible sex life with a man that probaly has multiple partners, and trying all of her life to make a lost man happy. And this, apparently, beautiful thing(*hint of sarcasm*), is the fastest growing religion in the world... in stead of the religion/ relationship with a savior, who loves you and laid down his life for you and your husband to do the same, without thinking. YOU CHOOSE.
Carolinalady 2008-04-21
Never heard of this one
I apologise but I find a need to clarify. I'm a Musllim and there are no specific vows. What happens is that the solemniser will seek permission from the woman whether she wishes to be married to the man. Only when her consent is obtained can the marriage take place. This is the true Muslim practice. Even if a marriage is arranged, the decision is still up to the woman.
The vow above appears be a tribal or community-based. What I did vow to my wife was to honor her, protect her and entrust her with my love and property. On her part, she promised to honor me, be my confidant and share our lives as one.
Roslan 2008-04-16
so true
I also believe this is very sexist. I mean, whats up with the whole ovedient thing.
Katikinz 2008-03-31
wow
who ever posted this as muslim wedding vows should do their research before they post wrong information. These are NOT muslim vows and for the people (such as above) who believe this to be true is STUPID! Learn and educate yourself before you start to JUDGE!
Lid 2008-03-18
hmmm
thats interesting how the woman's vows are much longer the the man's.
hmmmm.....
vron 2008-02-29
this is for P Oneill
that's what you call "being prejudice". staright away assuming that the vows is trying to put down the women. why do people always look at us and judge us like as if Islam has taught all the men to treat their wives very badly??? you can find other men with different nationality, different background and religion whom treat their wives unfairly. you've got to realise that religion was never there to teach bad, its the people. so next time before anyone says anything negative about certain things, do your research initially so you know what you're saying and you can stop your mouth from talking sh*t.
aaaaaa 2008-02-25
WHAT
Where did you get this crap? It has nothing to do with being muslim or islam.
Nassim Paruk 2008-02-11
sad
yes Mr Muslim man,remember to be "helpful"...a womans role in life is NOT to do everything for YOU!!!!
buff bride 2008-02-01
Ignorance
I think Graine, you need to research a little more before you make ignorant comments. Women in islam have more rights over thier husbands than in any other religion and to be honest what do you know about committment anyway..
Shazad 2007-10-19
muslim
i am muslim and this is not true!
muslim 2007-10-15
Hypocrites
Funny that no one made the same objection to the sexist Christian vows.
Matt 2007-10-14
its not your culture
it's not mine either, but don't be stupid, if you aren't muslim, it has nothing to do with you
erin 2007-09-18
And...
...What exactly? What gives you the right to pass judgment on these vows? For a start, a lot of the traditional Christian ones are the same ('To love, honour and obey' anyone?). For another thing, sure it's stereotypical but unfortunately that's the way some people like it.
But hey! You don't like it, here's an idea: don't use it!
mr punch 2007-09-05
Hmm...
I guess we can truly judge a society by how they treat their women. Earth has a long way to go...
Mad Cow 2007-08-30
Not Current
I am a Muslim, married, woman and this is not the vow I made. My husband and I said the same vow, the same length and obdiance was not part of it.
Nour 2007-08-08
to GJR
"Islam was the first religion to give rights to women and affords them great respect."
I guess that´s why I see all Islamic women covered up from head to toe, while the men go about in supertight t-shirts and gold chains.
Voskat 2007-07-12
to Mariam
"Everyone has their own Culture and own way of life.
DEAL WITH IT!"
Yeah, let them suppress and abuse women all they like. It´s their way of life after all.
By "DEAL WITH IT", I assume you mean: The next time you see the victims, just turn off your television and pretend it´s not happening.
Voskat 2007-07-12
Ignorant
Women and men are NOT equal in the Quran.
Read the book before you claim that you´re a Muslim.
Voskat 2007-07-12
This is why their is war
The ignorance that is out there.
So everyone hates muslims now?
Please Don't bring up 9-11 because if you really want to talk about that you should ask your own government. I'm sure they have some answers and probably a blue print of it all!
Why can't people just be respectful of other peoples beliefs?
Everyone has their own Culture and own way of life.
DEAL WITH IT!
alot of woman do it, They let the man be the man and be HEAD of the House... that is being an obidient wife. Making sure Dinner is cooked and kids taken care of, laundry and dishes are done!
A LOT of White Bread American women do it! Alot of woman want their man satisfied...
isnt that considered Obidient?
Mariam 2007-06-22
Where is the middle
As noted in a comment above, we look on Islam as an extreme relegion..... so, if you are not, then were is the voice of reason from your relegious leaders, where were they after 9-11, where are they now in East Asia as Muslims behead Indue..... the list goes on....
Wow 2007-06-10
obediant
i dont think the wife should be obidient; i am fully respectful of my wife rosie in our marrige. i even help her with the washing up...lol!!
Richard Marley 2007-06-08
Wow
Under Sharia law a husband can divorce his wife simply by telling her, "you are divorced," three times, while women seeking separation must navigate a multitude of legal hurdles that usually take two years to complete.
Barbara 2007-06-07
The height of bigotry
Firstly, there is no such thing as a muslim wedding vow and the comments posted on this site are extremely rude - clearly only because they are written by ignorant bigots.
Secondly, Islam was the first religion to give rights to women and affords them great respect.
Thirdly, should you want proof that Islam is the true religion, than read up on it and educate yourself. God has provided all the information to aid in searching for the truth. Instead of remaining ignorant and intolerant, why not try a little respect for the unknown and educate yourself - if nothing else you may become a slightly better person for it.
GJR 2007-06-03
not the true faith
I have heard many Muslims make many statements about their religion, but not one of them has ever come forward to prove that theirs is the true faith. Is there a Muslim anywhere who is willing to step forward and actually prove that Islam is the real faith? Where is the historical accuracy? Where is the concrete evidence? Religion is not just about what you want to believe in, it is about what's true and what's not true. Can anyone please step forward, at the risk of denouncing his or her faith in public, and actually prove Islam to be true? I didn't think so.
David 2007-05-26
This is my opinion
please no one of us Muslims said anything about your wedding vows although that after a while u forget this vows and start to disrespect your other half ..
its not a crap and its for sure not a sexist
Layaly 2007-04-26
judge not the action but intent
I believe in order to understand a certain something you need to learn much more about it. I have study many religions and it is islam that women get the most respect for what they do..Islam is away of life rather than a religion..both man and women are treated of equal..So before judging this subject or anything in life ask yourself how much do you really know and how much do you choose to base your opinion on.....In conclusion i understand how this may be mistaken as being stereotypical or biased when indeed its not... Have a fantastic day...
mere 2007-04-24
Learn from us
You people speak of which you know nothing. A muslim husban can loves his wife, the mother of his sons. It her responsibility to provide sons, if she not fulfil that responsibility, she not worthy of marriage and deceived husban! Were she to do so, she is dog, Holy Quar‘an and the Holy Prophet condemn her. You cannot understand because you not Muslim, we can love our dog, wife, truck, but no where are we commanded to love anything in Holy Quar‘an!
Ronnyooo 2007-04-09
Lovely
These vows are showing what marriage was built on and what it should still be.
Bridget 2007-04-05
Respect each other
In the Muslim religion the man is in charge of the family, where as in Christian family things are generally run by the two, TOGETHER, as one. There is not equality for man and woman in the Muslim faith. It is clearly reflected with these vows. (whether there are vows in a Muslim marriage or not)Also, I think it is extremely immature to condemn people to hell and throw out insults, over something as silly as this. Please people, try to respect each others opinions.
Anosha Syeda 2007-03-01
The vows
These vows made the man sound in control! I don't like that. I think when you get married both people should have a fair say in everything that is going on. If I were getting married these vows would not be on my list.
E.T. 2007-03-01
Make qulaified statements
In the Current climate Islam is synoymus with extremism. This is very sad. There are extremists in every faith. they just don't get the attention of the media.
what is sadder is People actually beleive the negativity that they are fed and make unqulified statements such as these on this site.
Junior and echo are correct in that there are no muslim vows.
The ceremnoy consists of prayers and the bride is asked 3 time if she wants to marry the groom. to make certain that she is a willing participant and that she really does want to get married.
There are arranged marriages in the w
Please for the sake of humanity, please qulaify your staments before making ones that will inflame and create more hatred in the world.
Noor 2007-02-20
...
there's really no such wedding vow in a muslim wedding ceremony. and for those people don't comment on something which you really doesn't know anything about.
echo 2006-07-17
who wrote this
This is all made up... there are no such vows in a muslim wedding ceremony..
junior 2006-07-10
MY VIEW
well u bunch of people just dunnoe wat muslim wedding is all about...
this vow is not sexist at all.
the man is in charge of the family and we as a wife has to respect that.
if u tink its a crap,than just get lost and may u rot in hell..
LadyInDemaNd 2006-06-25
comments
islam is a divine religion, all u snooty opinionated idiots should shove ur bloody opinions up ur ass.
G T H 2006-02-08
just my 2cents
yea thats exactly as i was thinking. i do not like this vow. it sounds like it makes the man in complete control, and the woman has to follow everything he says, or tells her to do. an obedient wife. sometimes theres a line, and this vow has no lines. respecting each other is more like it. this is all i gotta say abt this.. so called "vow"
becca 2006-01-15
My opinion on the vows
I think these vows are very sexist and it makes the bride sound more like a dog rather than a women. The bride seems to be commiting herself a lot more than the man does and the way the bride says "obedient" and the man says "helpful" completely backs up the way men and women are stereotyped.
Graine 2005-11-30
Just my opinion
I'm not so sure about the word "obedient" remaining in the vow. Respectful is a better word.
Duaa 2005-08-16
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